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You have to realize that the five count is nothing more then a sales gimmick, meant to booster sales of Frank's craps school. It does absolutely nothing for you, now he can throw up all the numbers he wants to, and show you all the percentages. But the truth of the matter is, every time there's a new shooter there is no way of telling if they are going to get past two rolls the dice!
Basically you are using a mechanical system that has no way a telling if the shooter will make it past six roll the dice! Then you have to also look at, the math of the game, which says most players will never get pass eight rolls of the dice!

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• The 5-count is devastatingly simple yet it accomplishes what no method or system in craps has ever accomplished: it automatically eliminates in advance all the horrendous rolls – those rolls that seven out immediately after the shooters have established their points, or within several rolls.

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People that are trying to sell you something love to confuse you with facts and figures, the only problem is, they leave out the most important ones! Like most people never make it pass eight the dice!
What they managed to do with just five count was, piss off every casino there is, with players waiting five rolls of the dice before they make their first bet, you have to remember that casinos make their money off of rolls per hour. The way they look at it is, if you're standing there and not betting you are costing them money!
Just imagine when a school parades all of their students into one casino and they take over the tables and using the five count that they just learned. If you've ever been in Vegas and had the misfortune of being at a craps table when they descended on it like a swarm of locusts playing musical shooters as they swapped out shooters in SL1 and all of them using the five count, you could see why a casino wouldn't want any so-called DI's playing on their tables!

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These schools love to use the gimmick of having all of their students taking over a table, and trying to put on a show, it's nothing more then a advertising gimmick for them. Sometimes one of their students do manage to get on a roll, and it might sell someone else on taken their class.
You have to remember, if they all are losing you wouldn't even notice them at the table, they would all be standing there, with sad little faces and empty chip racks! There would be no screaming and shouting!
Don't kid yourself into using a five count, evaluate the players that you want to bet on, don't let a mechanical system do it for you. After all,.. By now everybody should know that systems do not work!
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superrick
Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction!

Frank prefers the five count.
We each handle the reality of craps in our own way.

Frank also wants to be noticed as the one that introduced the Captain's 5 Count to the world.
That must make him feel real good.
In this video

he says at 4:52
'the five-count is the only shooter selection system
that has been proven to work in a massive study of 200 million shooters'
Well, move over 5 Count, you ain't the only one. Others work as well or even better.
I have shown two other systems that do actually better than the 5 count.
The Alan 4 count and run and
the 6 roll count and bet
It also says this on youtube
'The 5-Count will save you money, get you in on long rolls and help you get more comps.'
In an earlier post I showed that there are no such things as long rolls.
That is included in the length of a shooters hand probability distribution.
All short and long rolls are included in that distribution.
Here is another article that comes to a wrong conclusion over at Golden Touch Craps
The 7 count because the 5 count may be too hard to count.
'My friend knows the 5-count but prefers to count rolls instead.'
http://www.goldentouchcraps.com/skinny0006.shtml
'We know from another of Dr. Catlin's studies 57% of random shooters do not make it past the 5-count.'
This is NOT true. another misunderstanding of simulation data.
I and SN Ethier calculated that the 5 count
probability achieve the 5-count = 0.513626686 or about 51.4%
So about 48.6% of random shooters do not make it past the 5-count
What the 5 count actually does is bet on *less rolls on average per shooter*
proportion of rolls bet on = 0.434930249 or about 43.5% meaning on average 56.5% of rolls are not bet on.
Not 57% of shooters are not being bet on.
Of course it is very possible using the 5 count that the very next 5 shooters will all fail to make it past the 5 count.

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such is the nature of random events.
I show the stats on the X-roll count and bet system in another post for those so interested.
The 6 roll count (then bet) and the Alan 4 count (and stop betting until next shooter)
has a lower expected loss per shooter than does the 5 Count. (making the same $ bets and type of bets)
now more choices (shooter selection system) betting on random rollers.
Sally Oh

Sally, can you point me to the discussion about the Allan 4 count and the 6 roll count method you mention in your above post?
Thank you.

That is a great post that Sally wrote. You should read it. But to summarize, if you stay out of craps action for 4,5,6 or any number of rolls, you will lose less money. You will not win, you will simply lose less.
But the original post by SuperRick says about the same thing. Read that also.Im not sure what to think about the 5 count, but I do know that it seems every roll that starts out with lots of craps rolls (3,3,11,2) very very seldom turn out to good rolls!I GOT IT!!! 3 MINUTE ABBS....

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The ‘5 Count Craps Strategy’ was initially developed by Dr. Don Catlin, Professor Emeritus of Mathematics at the University of Massachusetts and was later given prominence by Frank Scoblete, a professional craps player.

The 5-Count Strategy is used on random rollers at the craps table to ‘qualify the shooter’ to determine if you’re going to place any bets during his/her roll.

The strategy is based on the studies that indicate that 57% of shooters will not make it past the 5-Count without tossing a (7), and therefore protects you from losing money on short rolls and Point 7-Outs when the table is choppy or cold.

While there is some merit to their conclusions when you look at ‘mean distributions’ of dice rolls, keep in mind that regardless of whether it is the shooter’s 3^rd roll or 23^rd roll, they still have a ‘1 in 6’ chance of tossing a (7).

What the strategy does do, is keep you, and your bankroll, longer by not losing money on ‘short roll’ random rollers, and hopefully you’ll still be at the table when the shooter or table heats up.

Keep in mind that no strategy or system can change the house edge (casino advantage) of any bet at the craps tables, the 5-Count Strategy can help you and your bankroll play and stay at the tables longer.

HOW THE 5 COUNT STRATEGY WORKS

When a new shooter takes the dice…

• Count 1 starts when the shooter throws their first ‘box number’ (4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10). Any other number thrown (2, 3, 11, 12) does not start the count.
• Counts 2, 3 and 4 include any number thrown, including craps numbers.
• Count 5 requires a ‘box number’ to be thrown again (4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10) to qualify.
• Anytime a 7 is thrown, the count starts over.

Let’s take a look at the rolls and count in action;

• Shooter gets the dice and starts his/her rolls.
  • ( 3 ) Count = 0– The count doesn’t start until a box number is hit
  • (11) Count = 0– The count doesn’t start until a box number is hit
  • ( 6 ) Count = 1– A box number was hit so the count starts
  • ( 9 ) Count = 2– Any number rolled advances the count on counts 2, 3 and 4
  • (12) Count = 3– Any number rolled advances the count
  • ( 5 ) Count = 4– Any number rolled advances the count
  • ( 3 ) Count = 4– Count #5 requires a box number to be hit
  • (11) Count = 4– Count #5 requires a box number to be hit
  • ( 9 ) Count = 5– Required box number was hit
• Now you start betting on the shooter. Use the betting system or strategy you’re comfortable with.
• Remember that a (7) rolled at any point during the count would have started the count over again.

There is still a lot of debate as to whether or not this strategy works, but it will keep you at the table longer and increase your chance of being at the table when a hot or advantage shooter gets the dice or the table turns heats up.

Like any strategy, it’s recommended that you practice and experiment with it before ever putting real money on the craps tables.

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